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Top Albums of the Juice Generation: 21-50 (Part 2)
2005-07-12 22:48
by Scott Long

Let me begin part 2 by mentioning that this project to list the Top 100, with some short write-ups has taken me over 30 hours so far. I had no idea how long this was going to take. Well, let's get to the next 30.

21. John Mellencamp- Scarecrow (1985)
22. Bruce Springsteen- Tunnel of Love (1987)
23. Elvis Costello- King of America (1986)
24. Lyle Lovett- Joshua Judges Ruth (1992)
25. Peter Gabriel- So (1986)

Up until 1985, he was Johnny Cougar, a creation by David Bowie's former manager. He had just started to be more of John Mellencamp over the preceding 2 albums. (see Pink Houses) Then came the "Scarecrow", making a large grab at Springsteen, Guthrie, and Dylan. This is the sound of middle of America.
"Tunnel of Love" is the most honest record a major artist has ever released about his personal life. Oh and by the way, the music is great, also. "Brilliant Disguise" is Springsteen's best relationship song.
The best alt. country record I've ever heard wasn't by Wilco, Son Volt, or Gram Parsons, it's by a British bloke by the name of Declan McManus. "King of America" is the most underrated release of Elvis Costello's career. Check out the lyrics of Brilliant Mistake.
How is it that country radio can't get enough of Shania's and Toby's, but have no room for the magnificent music of Lyle Lovett. There are at least 4 of his CD's I would put in my Top 200, but "Joshua Judges Ruth" is the peak. From spirituals like "Church" and "I've Been to Memphis", which demonstrate the talents of his great band and wonderful backup singers, to ballads like "North Dakota", this is a great place to discover Lovett. "And there is nothing so unwavering as a woman, when she's already made up her mind"--- (from She's Already Made Up Her Mind)
Every once in awhile, a great artist produces something that even the masses can't escape, which is what happened in 1986-87, with "So". Known for his atmospheric music, Gabriel kicked off the album with 2 funky singles, "Sledgehammer" and "Big Time". Add in 3 of the best ballads of the 80's, "Red Rain", "Don't Give Up", "In Your Eyes", and you have a piece of work that is smart and sensuous. (Ask Lloyd Dobbler)

26. Wilco- Being There (1996)
27. Pearl Jam- Vs (1993)
28. Beck- Odelay (1996)
29. Moby- Play (1999)
30. PJ Harvey- Rid of Me (1993)

While "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot" is the one always on the lists, it's "Being There" which demonstrates Wilco at their best. Here is Jeff Tweedy exploring different musical genres, but always staying true to what he does best, the alt. country sound. Have you ever wondered if Alex Chilton and Johnny Cash made an album together, what it would sound like? Look no further.
The sophomore release by Pearl Jam is the best melding of their anthem rock style and their more artistic leanings. This and the follow-up, Vitalogy, pointed to the idea that Vedder would lead a band somewhere between The Who and REM. Unfortunately, like Radiohead, they have decided to step away from any commercial instincts, leaving U2 without competition for "Greatest Band in the World".
"You know where it's at---2 turntables and a microphone." Beck appeared from another planet on the excellent "Mellow Gold", but it's on "Odelay" that he will be remembered most for. A sound collage, which brings about every musical style together and somehow takes the diverse mix and makes it blend into great songs.
On the subject of blended styles, "Play" is right there. Not a fan of Moby's before "Play", his use of blues recordings that Alan Lomax had collected during the first half of the 20th Century is brilliant, giving techno the soul it lacks.
Polly Jean Harvey is a modern blues singer, who with the great producer, Steve Albini at the controls, came together to great effect. "Rid of Me" is the sound of a woman in heat, one who is vulnerable, yet strong, passionately in control, but always on the edge of flying completely out of control.

31. Living Color- Time's Up (1990)
32. Soundgarden- Superunknown (1994)
33. Everclear- Sparkle and Fade (1995)
34. Sugar- Copper Blue (1992)
35. The Red Hot Chili Peppers- Blood Sugar Sex Magik (1991)

Although their self-titled debut was excellent, "Time's Up" was even better, showing off their talents in many musical genres. Another influenced by Public Enemy, guitarist Vernon Reid is one of the best I've ever heard. Corey Glover's singing was just as great, which makes one wonder why neither one of them has had much of musical career since this release. One to Download: "Love Rears It Ugly Head"
Somewhere in-between Metal and Grunge was Soundgarden. Led by Chris Cornell's operatic vocals, "Superunknown" is the second of three top-notch albums they released.
At this point, Cornell's fixation on the sun, the waves, and blackness still seemed fresh. Definitely don't try to karaoke "The Day I Tried to Live"
Art Alexakis has been slammed for being Kurt Light, but while he's not as good as Cobain, he should be given credit for making some great music, which this album best demonstrates. "Santa Monica" is one of the 10 best rock songs of this era, while "Heroin Girl" and "You Make Me Feel Like a Whore" show the direct way Everclear's lyrics are.
I've tried and tried, but Husker Du just has never been something I've felt much passion for. Now, Bob Mould's solo work and with Sugar are a whole different story, with "Copper Blue" being the best. To me the ideal way to enjoy Mould is with the slick production values that are present with Sugar and this is a pop album, with distorted sound. "Good Idea" is the best Frank Black song, not written by him.
While always a great live band, it took an ace producer like Rick Rubin to help bring their talents to the recording studio. "Suck My Kiss" and "Give It Away" are the 2 best funk rock songs of this era, while unexpectedly, 2 great ballads "Breaking the Girl" and "Under the Bridge" give the record a different feel than they had shown before.

36. Dire Straits- Brother in Arms (1985)
37. REM- Out of Time (1991)
38. REM- Life's Rich Pageant (1986)
39. Bruce Springsteen- The Rising (2002)
40. U2- All that You Can't Leave Behind (2000)

Remember the days when a mature band could kick it up a notch and become superstars? Well, in the world of segmented music, those days are over, as modern marketing doesn't allow for guys who look like Mark Knopfler to become sensations in the middle of their careers. "Brothers in Arms" capitalized on a great chorus sung by Sting, plus a video that brilliantly satirized what marketing was doing then on MTV and the channel ate it up. "Brothers in Arms" is a song Roger Water's wishes he would have written. (Note: I HATE the song "Walk of Life", but the rest of the album is great.)
"Out of Time" was the release that put REM on the map, when it came to international stardom. What a time period 1991-92 was, with "Losing My Religion" fighting it out on the charts with "Smells Like Teen Spirit", "Alive", and "One". While none of them were radio hits, the last 5 songs on the CD are all magnificent.
Five years before this release, REM put out "Life's Rich Pageant, which is a transitional record for the band, with Michael Stipe clearly singing the words, but I'll be damned if I know what half of them mean. Whatever he was singing about, the result was some great sounding music, with "Begin the Begin", their best rocker of the 80's. Considering that Mellencamp producer, Don Gehman did the same on this record; it's not surprising the record has a Scarecrow-like sound. "Superman" is a hidden track and Mike Mills' top lead vocals with the band. "Fall on Me" has a gorgeous harmony and is one of their best.
After "Tunnel of Love", Bruce Springsteen had done some spotty work. "The Rising" is an album which speaks to the events of 9/11 more clearly than any other musician has done and is a triumphant return for the Boss. The first recording he had done with the E Street Band in 17 years, it is the best the band had sounded since "The River". Song after song are dramatic and filled with feeling that only U2 can match.
When I think of the TV concert for the victims of 9/11, it's Springsteen and U2 that stand out above everyone else. While not on the scale of Springsteen's comeback, "All that You Can't Leave Behind" was a return to the dramatic rock U2 does best. "Beautiful Day" has the energy and power that few rock songs capture, while "In a Little While" and "Walk On" are gospel-tinged pleas, which hit all the right notes. While it was written more than a year before 9/11, "Peace on Earth" said a lot more about the current state of our world than any jingoistic Toby Keith or Daryl Worley song.

41. Run DMC- Raising Hell (1986)
42. Eminem- The Marshall Mathers LP (2000)
43. Eric B and Rakim- Paid in Full (1987)
44. Beastie Boys- Ill Communication (1994)
45. Morphine- Cure for Pain (1993)

Until "Raising Hell", rap played to just a segment of the population, but Run DMC changed that with their duet with Aerosmith on "Walk that Way". The album is a collection of singles, which acts as a bridge between the old school and newer, more hardcore rap.
Eminem can be hard to like, but his talent shines through these obstacles, especially on "Marshall Mathers". Funny, sophomoric, smart, vile, Slim Shady is a cartoon with a lot of substance. On the song "Stan", he raps over a little known (at the time) singer, Dido and creates the best single of 2000.
Outside of Grandmaster Flash, the early days of rap had MC's using party voices, like Kurtis Blow, Whodini, and the Sugarhill Gang. Rakim took it to a whole nutha' level. It could be argued that "Paid in Full" is the most sampled, most influential rap album of all-time and I've still never heard a voice more commanding in the genre.
"Paul's Boutique" is the trendy choice of critics, but I like "Ill Communication" best, as it's jazzy music blends with great rapping (I've got more action than my man John Woo, and I've got mad hits like I was Rod Carew) combine for a more complete recording. Also points for the best video of all-time, (Sabotage) which was directed by the best in the biz, Spike Jonze.
Who says you need to have a guitar to be a grunge band. Led by a bass and a saxophone, "Cure for Pain" is a modern-day detective novel comes to life. Check out the song Thursday, if you need some proof.

46. INXS- Kick (1987)
47. Ben Folds 5 (1995)
48. Rufus Wainwright- Poses (2002)
49. The Cure- Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me (1987)
50. Depeche Mode- Violator (1990)

INXS had put out some good songs on their first 4 LP's, but with "Listen Like Thieves" (1985), the band made a statement that they were better than just being a part of the New Wave wave. "Kick" was even stronger, with every song laden with hooks. Michael Hutchence was one of the most versatile singers in rock history, as he proved with funk rock songs like "New Sensation" and "Wild Life", while completely delivering on a great ballad like "Never Gonna Tear Us Apart". One of the best groups of the era.
During a time when all alternative music seemed to be tinged, if not completely overwhelmed with grunge, Ben Folds debuted with an album that had the energy and attitude of the Seattle scene, but used a piano to rock the house. Somewhere between Joe Jackson and Elton John, Folds fit in sound, but his lyrics are often focused on what it's like to not be part of the cool scene. "Alice Childress" points to the influence of Brian Wilson, which becomes more apparent in his solo work.
While it might not reach the peaks of Jeff Buckley's work, "Poses" is a more complete record, as it is filled with gems that sound timeless. Rufus Wainwright has a very affected style of singing , but with the words and melodies he brings to "Poses", it works in some magical Beatles meets Sondheim style. "Cigarettes and Chocolate Milk" manages to be funny and beautiful at the same time, while on most of the other tracks, there is a dreany quality to the music, which blends wonderfully with Wainwright's voice.
Much like The Smiths and New Order, The Cure were a band that I thought made great singles, but I never felt they put together a top notch Long Player. "Kiss Me", while still having some filler, has so many quality songs that you can get past the fluff. While Scritti Politti made the quintessential British alternative Prince album (Cupid and Psyche), the Cure added some of these Prince elements, while making an even better record than Scritti Politti.
Another great singles band is Depeche Mode, but on Violator the singles are so great, they make up for the weaker tracks. "Personal Jesus" and "Enjoy the Silence" are 2 of the best dance tracks of the era. The remixes are worth downloading.

(NOTE: The final 50 will most likely go up on Friday.)

2005-07-13 05:43:24
1.   Blah Blah Blah
As always, very interesting. The one thing that captured my attention was the choice of King of America. I thought it was excellent but I also thought its "companion" album (release nearly simultaneously as I recall), Blood and Chocolate was far better...carrying on in the pained tradition of Plastic Ono Band, Tonight's the Night, etc. Not necessarily fun, but really potent.
2005-07-13 06:00:50
2.   Baby Maddux
I'm really enjoying reading this. One of the plusses is, unlike the magazines, etc, who have an agenda to prove how much hipper-than-thou they can be, you're including albums that people outside of inner circles of music stores have heard. It makes it more accessible for the rest of us. Thanks.
2005-07-13 06:25:49
3.   Blah Blah Blah
And oh, yes, Brilliant Mistake would probably make my top 50 songs of the last 20 years.

Hey, that gives me an idea....

2005-07-13 07:11:14
4.   TFD
Scott: Great, great choices, especially 21-25. They would all be in my top 100. Joshua Judges Ruth is a great Lyle Lovett CD, glad you mentioned that one. My wife and I still love "rocking out" to "Church". Incredible gospel stuff. "So" is well...I've spoken enough on that. However, I don't think the masses ever really embraced it. Cameron Crowe helped when he used "In Your Eyes" in the great "Say Anything..", but I don't think it ever got much past the critical crowd.

I'm glad someone else feels the same way about "Tunnel of Love". It still amazes me how underappreciated this CD is. It would be in my Top 10 of the last 20 years.

How did I ever forget "Odelay" that should be a lot higher.

"Brother In Arms"...heh, heh. BTW, "here comes Johnny singin' oldies goldies/he bobba looba/baby what i say.....he's got the action/he's got the motion/oh yeah the boy can play"

Where's NWA???

2005-07-13 07:16:44
5.   TFD
BTW, nice Lloyd Dobbler drop. Missed that the first time.


"So if you guys are so good, why are you sitting outside the Gas N' Sip at 8:00 on a Friday night?"

"By choice." "Yeah, by choice, dude."

2005-07-13 07:27:37
6.   Baby Maddux
You can never go wrong with Lloyd Dobler.
2005-07-13 07:48:57
7.   Scott Long
Blah Blah Blah

After I get finished with this top 100, I'm going to take some time off from doing music lists, as I plan on getting around to a few chores I haven't done lately, like talking to my family, showering, or eating some food that doesn't begin with the word fast.

2005-07-13 07:57:13
8.   Smed
My next 30 (keep in mind that I moved Neko Case's Blacklisted to my top 20 after the Smile discussion).

In no order -

Ben Folds Five- Ben Folds Five
Black Flag - Loose Nut
Blue Mountain - Tales Of A Traveler
Bottle Rockets - The Brooklyn Side
The Breeders - POD
Built To Spill - Keep It Like A Secret
Camper Van Beethoven - Our Beloved Revolutionary Sweetheart
De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising
Bob Dylan - Oh Mercy
Fishbone - Truth and Soul
Franz Ferdinand - Franz Ferdinand
Robbie Fulks - Very Best of Robbie Fulks
Green Day - American Idiot
Helmet - Betty
The Jayhawks - Tomorrow the Green Grass
The Lemonheads - It's A Shame About Ray
The Long Ryders - State of Our Union
Meat Puppets - Huevos
Metallica - Master of Puppets
Morphine - Cure for Pain
Nirvana - Bleach
Pixies - Surfer Roas
Primus - Frizzle Fry
The Pursuit of Happiness - Love Junk
R. E. M. - Document
Son Volt - Trace
Sugar - Beaster
Tad - 8-Way Santa
Urge Overkill - Exit The Dragon
Whiskeytown - Faithless Street

2005-07-13 11:32:53
9.   TFD
another..."how could i forget?"

alanis - jagged little pill. it's an interesting question why "you oughta know" became the go-to song, when "hand in pocket" is really the more timeless and significant work.

what was it about the american listening zeitgeist at the time that hung to one and not another? (These are the questions I ponder...)

after all, if Larry David does a show about it, it most certainly is in the american zeitgeist!

scott: you're up to 50, and this one isn't one your list?? what gives? no love for young female canadian angst?

2005-07-13 12:03:13
10.   Smed
Alanis makes me want to pound nails in my eardrums. Aaaaaah! Bad Canadian!
2005-07-13 16:26:26
11.   Tom
I know, I know, all lists are for amusement purposes only, but man do these things twist my mellon.

I was way far north in Michigan one labor day and they were doing some top 100 countdown of bad 70s rock (which is pretty good to rock out to) and there were to Rush songs next to each other. How? Why?

So, I've got to say that putting two R.E.M. albums next to each other causes me the same sort of anxiety.

I feel like the internal logic of the list hits a breaking point too-- All that You Can't Leave behind and Play are better than the Marshall Mathers LP and Ill Communication?

I really applaud your effort, because I could never make such a list-- my head would explode first.

2005-07-13 16:28:47
12.   scareduck
Yow, I don't think I could even stand to be in the same room as about half of these (Life's Rich Pageant and Out Of Time were both banal wastes of $0.30 worth of polycarbonate, Springsteen hasn't recorded anything worth listening to in almost two decades, post-Joshua Tree U2 is all commercial pop, all bad, all the time) or odd choices (P.J. Harvey's To Bring You My Love is IMO her best work).

But opinions are like noses, opinions about music doubly so.

BTW, the weirdest remake of "Personal Jesus" has got to be Johnny Cash's.

2005-07-13 17:19:40
13.   Will Carroll
So spawned two top ten singles and if asked, almost everyone knows "Sledgehammer."

I'd agree with anything Elvis - or even Declan McManus as the album was credited. Costello's work always has to be taken in context. "King" was made just before his first wedding and without his normal posse. "Blood" was a return to a punk ideal with his normal band.

Great albums, Scott ... I'm now glad I passed. I couldn't keep up!

2005-07-13 17:26:23
14.   Scott Long
OK, since it's one person's list, I will admit that I have put music in themes on this list, which give some organization to each section. (The top 20 are not done this way, but there is not a big difference in my rankings between 31-48.) Of course, if there were numerous voters on this list, it would be easier to mathematically choose position.
Hopefully, Tom, this will untwist your melon, somewhat. Since I'm taking on every genre of music, it's pretty hard to truly define which is better: Moby or Mellencamp.

Having said this, I like my list a lot and think it's a lot better than the Spin version.

Scareduck- Achtung Baby, Zooropa are far from commercial offerings, whatever you think of them. Joshua Tree is U2 at their most commercial, which I have no problem with. "Down by the Water" is my favorite Polly Jean tune, but Dry and Rid of Me are better overall albums to my ears.
I could go along with you on the REM rips, if you were discussing their last 2 offerings.

2005-07-13 17:56:55
15.   Smed
Ah, Scareduck - Life's Rich Pageant a waste? My gosh, that's in my top 20! (See other thread...)

And Dry is much better (also see my top 20).

I'll admit I have quirky tastes (I bet no one saw Tad coming here) and more will follow on my 50-100.

I just wish Beefheart released a record post 1985. Woe is uh me bop!

2005-07-13 18:06:47
16.   TFD
What was the other Top10 single that "So" spawned, besides Sledgehammer? I may stand corrected, but I didn't think anything ever got past the video sensation that Sledgehammer was...
2005-07-13 18:59:52
17.   Baby Maddux
Big Time, I would guess.
2005-07-13 19:28:36
18.   TFD
I did the research and I stand corrected.

Sledgehammer was a #1, Big Time a Top10, and In Your Eyes a Top30. I guess that qualifies as being embraced by the masses.

* blogger's 1986 memory needs to be re-freshed *

2005-07-14 05:28:11
19.   jgpyke
Two overlooked albums on the Spin list and from others' lists, too

1. Lou Reed, "New York"
(maybe his best solo album ever, very timely, possibly the best snapshot of a time and place by any artist ever)

2. "O! Brother" Soundtrack
(great music, hugely influential, brought bluegrass and roots music to the forefront of American pop culture consciousness for the past few years, validated a couple generations of hardworking musicians)

2005-07-14 07:45:46
20.   Scott Long
The Lou Reed New York album was something I considered, as I love 3 songs on it. "We all need a Busload of Faith to get by"
O Brother is a soundtrack/compilation, which is not something I considered or SPIN, for the list. Also, half the music was recorded way before 1985, so that is another reason.

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