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2008-08-29 12:02
by Scott Long
Untitled So Will beat me to it, except I think she is way hotter than Tina Fey. Considering I also have a thing for McCain's wife there is a body part that wants to vote for the Republican ticket. If only this ticket would promise they would go back to the tax rates under Clinton (YEAH TAX INCREASE!) and choose moderate judges (Oh yeah, they are both against abortion). Since this isn't the case and I thought choosing Biden showed Presidential decision-making, I'm going with Obama. ****************************************************************** I am a fan of Keith Olbermann, but his constant approval of all things Obama and constant scorn for all things McCain has made him a Sean Hannity-like figure when it comes to reporting the news. While I agree with most of Obama's policies, my sorta fair and balanced radar, which was fine tuned from my journalism background, has real trouble with anyone who comes off extremely slanted one particular way. Liberal media outlets like Countdown or Rolling Stone Magazine (yeah, you Matt Taibbii) slammed Hilary Clinton every chance they got and have went even further that direction with McCain. The way FoxNews behaved for Dubya, many Liberal media outlets have emulated with Obama. I think their zeal to slam Hilary has already backfired and if this unknown Governor helps to connect with some of these disaffected voters, it might just be a death blow to the result they were looking for. Democrats are less likely to go for slanted political commentary, as we don't automatically root for the home team. This is the reason there will never be a progressive Rush Limbaugh. We like the NPR type slant in our news. Mild and classy, not blowharded crass. ******************************************************************* I thought McCain should have picked Pawlenty, as he is a really impressive politician. I am just happy he didn't choose Senator Joe Conn. I think he cost Gore the election as much as anyone outside of Ralph Nader and no politician gets on my nerves more than him. His sanctimonious behavior in condemning Bill Clinton's indiscretions was I began to turn against the guy. I have a real problem with people who lecture others on their marital behavior, as who is to know what goes on between a husband and wife. (I plan on posting something more on this subject in regards to John Edwards in the coming days.) I especially have problems with those who browbeat people with marriage difficulties when they have a divorce or 2 in their background, as well. See Limbaugh, Gingrich, Joe Conn, etc. ******************************************************************* I thought I would see a black person or a woman achieve the presidency and vice presidency during my lifetime. What I never thought would be the case is for a person who grew up in Hawaii or Alaska to be the one's to achieve it. If Aaron Sorkin had written a West Wing script where a foxy mama from Alaska became the Vice President, he would have been criticized for doing it to boost ratings. Palin has an Anne Archer type sensuality, circa 1990. You look at those brown eyes and cheekbones and maybe that goofy show where Geena Davis was the nation's boss wasn't so far-fetched.
2008-08-29 12:11:33
1.   joejoejoe
She's better looking today. And so is Obama-Biden.
2008-08-29 13:03:51
2.   Xeifrank
I am a fan of Keith Olbermann

Oh dear!
vr, Xei

2008-08-29 13:38:10
3.   be2ween
We'd all hit it. Agreed.
2008-08-29 14:59:32
4.   ToyCannon
Seeing her during lunch with McCain she looked very much like Tina Fey. If I needed backup I think I'd want her over the other candidates involved.

You are right about MSNBC, they are doing a little to much fawning right now for my taste, and I like the candidates they are fawning over.

2008-08-29 15:51:42
5.   jgpyke
"Keith Olbermann...when it comes to reporting the news"

Ha! You've still got it, comedian!

KO doesn't report anything. He is an opinionator. Did you hear him after HRC's speech the other night? "Hillary Clinton must have been proud to give that speech. I would have been proud to give it, and I'm proud of her for giving it"

The next Cronkite? Murrow? Puleeze. The guy is a gasbag. It's funny, but he's basically O'Reilly in a different jersey. The only real difference between the two is that O'R has a big enough audience to get A-list guests.

2008-08-29 17:31:17
6.   underdog
Why do people get their undies in a bunch about Keith Olbermann? Is it only the right that's allowed to have blowhard commentators all over the place? I sometimes want to smack KO myself but I'm still glad he's there. Cable news commentary was pretty one-sided until he came along. At least he didn't write a hypocritical book giving advice to children about bullies (unlike a certain bully). Olbermann may be a blowhard, but he also happens to speak the truth much of the time, at least in my opinion.
2008-08-29 17:44:51
7.   ToyCannon
My undies are not bunched but I'd rather see even keel reporting from both sides. They are not supposed to be fans. Tim Russert is missed.
2008-08-29 20:28:27
8.   jgpyke
You know it's bad when the Daily Show, the Huffpo, and National Review all agree (on MSNBC/Obly being laughably in the tank for Obama).
2008-08-29 22:33:37
9.   Xeifrank
KO was a joke when he was a sports commentator on the 10 O'Clock news on KTLA-5 in LA and he still is.
vr, Xei
2008-08-30 09:28:35
10.   The Hawk
Keith Olbermann's shtick is better in theory than reality. In fact his and Chris Matthew's gushing was pretty ridiculous during the DNC. On the other hand, I enjoyed Pat Buchanan going bananas for Obama.
2008-08-30 17:29:15
11.   chris in illinois
Regarding KO, are there hundreds of thousands of words written about his mis-statements, half-truths and outright lies like O'Reilly?? I've heard KO admit that he was wrong which is an action completely f***ing foreign to the Irish phone-pervert. Just because he wears he his bias on his sleeve doesn't mean he's a dishonest goon.

Sometimes bias is knowledge-based, I'm biased against hitting my thumb with hammers (ouch) and biased in favor of delicious Pilsner Urquell Beer.

2008-08-30 19:01:58
12.   Andrew Shimmin
Cable news is the pits. And, anyway, if you get MSNBC or FNC, you probably get CSPAN, too. Watch CSPAN! Problem solved.
2008-08-30 19:04:21
13.   Andrew Shimmin
I wouldn't like to guess which way the average TMZ reader's politics skewed, but, Olbermann is winning this:

2008-08-30 21:31:52
14.   jgpyke
11 Olby is fine. Let's just not pretend his show is news. It's the same exact show as O'Reilly, but for leftists.
2008-08-31 09:27:59
15.   chris in illinois
I'm not saying that it's news and I'd agree that it's very similar to O'Reilly's show minus the 'making-shit-up' part. KO's job is really being done for him with such nonsense as the administration's posture that timelines in Iraq are wrong, but time horizons are what we need."

I'm not saying that O'Reilly is 100% BS, but his record is very spotty, 'truthiness'-wise. I'd love to see some examples of KO making things up out of whole cloth like the Fox 'News' Heads regularly do.

2008-08-31 16:48:02
16.   The Hawk
At any rate, I don't think it's a question of "fair and balanced" since he's doing commentary, not reporting. And I'm fairly certain he's expressing his own opinions, not those of the Democratic Party, nor anyone else.
2008-08-31 17:01:21
17.   Scott Long
Here is the big problem I have. MSNBC has Olbermann man the anchor chair during their campaign night coverages. Fox doesn't have O'Reilly or Hannity doing that. They would be better off having a David Gregory or Andrea Mitchell getting that gig and have KO and Matthews doing their thing in a more analyst type role.

I can tell you that when Limbaugh got the gig with ESPN, it clinched me not watching their football show. KO being on NBC I think is a mistake, as he has become such a polarizing figure. I like the guy a lot and agree with most of what he says, but his PR role reciting the mantra OBAMA is INFALLIBLE has taken some of my respect away from the guy. His efforts to stretch anything McCain does into a negative makes KO look some days like...THE WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD.

When no one on TV was consistently taking Dubya to task, KO was an important beacon of truth. He now has become so strident that I haven't watched a show of his in months.

2008-09-01 12:51:10
18.   Charenton
When no one on TV was consistently taking Dubya to task, KO was an important beacon of truth. He now has become so strident…

Of course the original modus operandi for 'Countdown' was to FINALLY, 25 years late, have somewhat of a response to the ubiquitous presence of right wing hate radio/tv. "Countdown" would not exist without Reilly, Hannity, Limbaugh etc… whereas the opposite is not true.
Regarding Hilary and her supposed lack of fair treatment by the media, there were 4 issues that bothered Olbermann (and I believe CMatthews)and many many other people that included:
1) WJC's JJackson comments in NC
2) The 1968 RFK assasination comparison
3) the comments about "hard working white voters" in WVA
4)the not ready to answer the phone at 3am commercial
I do not believe that KO's reaction (or mine, or basically every American that I know*) to the HRC campaign was exaggerated and Hilary got what she deserved. The latest information about the role of Mark Penn in the HRC campaign only serves to show how these slips were not really slips but more like the tip of the iceberg of a very unethical campaign.
*Then again, I live a rather sheltered existence…

2008-09-02 08:38:24
19.   Scott Long
Hey, I understand Countdown's role. No problem with that, though it isn't something I watch much of as it has become a propaganda tool for Obama.

The big problem I have is that KO can't have it both ways. He has become an unpaid spokesman for Obama, so he shouldn't be hosting coverage of any political event that features him.

In regards to Hillary, it was a political campaign, get over it. She was competing to win and I never thought any words she used ever went over the line except the RFK discussion. The liberal types in the party pretty much were in lockstep with Obama from the beginning, so she had a difficult job of trying to appeal to the more mainstream primary voters while still trying not to offend the liberal wing which she wanted to support her in the general.

The 3 AM ad was brilliant and it was the kind of thing that McCain was going to use on him, so why not get it out there now. It is real question.

The WJC comments are basically true. Obama won all the Southern states because of 99% support from Black voters. He was never going to win these states in a general, so their importance ended as soon as the primaries ended. Most of the toss-up states were states that Hillary did well in.

Obama barely won and the Clinton's supported him at the convention. If Obama would have thrown Hillary money to cover her campaign debt, the Clinton's would have taken a real backseat at the convention, but he decided not to, so they decided to continue the power play that a candidate who wins around the same amount of votes gets to do.

I'm supporting Obama because I believe in most of his policies, but I'm not giving the guy a free-ride. The infallibility that so many Obama supporters give the guy is scary to me. Kind of like how Reagan supporters used to be. Being a liberal to me has always been the case of questioning authority, even when it's the leader of the team.

2008-09-02 14:10:54
20.   Tripon
Who the hell vetted this lady? This is a a lot of crap to come out about a person in just one weekend.
2008-09-02 17:41:55
21.   Tripon
I see Bill O'Reilly manning a chair at a news analyst at the RNC at the moment.
2008-09-02 20:55:58
22.   Scott Long
Analyst fine. Anchoring the thing is the problem.
2008-09-03 20:29:00
23.   das411
and damn, she can give a speech too!

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