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2008-08-29 08:24
by Will Carroll

McCAIN - MILF '08!

Seriously, McCain just picked a Tina Fey lookalike as Veep. Cool. I'm not sure how Hillary supporters will react, but Lorne Michaels just has to be thrilled.

2008-08-29 09:10:21
1.   D4P
McCAIN - MILF '08!

I was thinking "Maverick and Moose"

2008-08-29 09:36:54
2.   ToyCannon
So a guy whose % of dying is higher then anyone who would become president since Roosevelt picks someone with the least amount of experience you could find to be his running mate while running a campaign against his competitions inexperience. Interesting.
2008-08-29 09:49:55
3.   dianagramr
"MILF .... it does a ticket good"
2008-08-29 10:05:59
4.   Xeifrank
So a guy whose % of dying is higher then anyone who would become president since Roosevelt

Do you have the percentages of all the candidates? And what goes in to your calculations? Medical records? Just curious.
vr, Xei

2008-08-29 10:07:40
5.   dianagramr

Will had McCain as a "Red" on BP's THR (Ticket Health Reports) :-)

2008-08-29 10:48:08
6.   Ruben F Pineda
4 Yeah, i think it was just a swipe on his age.

FWIW: Oldest presidents upon taking office

Reagan - 74 (second term, the bastion of Republican hope)
McCain? - 72
William Harrison - 68 (died a month in due to pneumonia)
James Buchanan - 68 (considered one of the worst three presidents ever)

FDR was only 63 on his 4th term, but his frailty was well known.

Nearly every other president was mid 50's to early 60's upon taking office. My cursory glance on Wikipedia would put my guess at 80% fall in that range.

All in all, I think its fair to comment on the VP's inexperience with McCain's age and history. Should be interesting how this plays out...

2008-08-29 10:48:39
7.   underdog
4 It's sort of like your win expectancy statistics, except death expectancy.

Okay, well, I gotta say this then, it may not be intentional but I think the current Bad Altitude header fits this topic to a "t."

2008-08-29 10:49:56
8.   underdog
"There's William Henry Harrison;
I died in thirty days!

Adequate, forgettable,
Occasionally regrettable
Caretaker presidents of the U-S-A"

2008-08-29 10:53:23
9.   D4P
What does CodgerSims have to say...?
2008-08-29 10:55:57
10.   underdog
9 - Hah hah, nice.


Maybe she can be the lead singer for the new band, the Keating Five.

2008-08-29 11:23:57
11.   Xeifrank
I would say it's an error to use age to compare people living today with those of the same age 70 to 150 years ago. We also have mcuh better medical data on candidates, so someone likely to die of disease will be less likely to slip through the cracks. Also, I believe the youngest US President ever died while in office. Unfortunately, natural death isn't the only way for a President to die while in office. In the last 50 years alone, Kennedy, Ford and Reagan all had serious threats on their lives and I am sure there were other threats/attempts that became well known. That all being said, yes lack of experience is worth a mention but the chance of dying while in office should take all counts into effect. Yeah, McCain probably has a higher probability of dying while in office, but my swag would be that it's not as wide of a gap as most people think. :)
vr, Xei
2008-08-29 11:32:37
12.   ToyCannon
Not just a swipe at his age but he's been through more then the normal 72 year old.

Being President is a tough gig, we can virtually watch them age before our eyes in a short 4 years. The next four years are going to be tough and while a fresh 72 year old McCain might be upto the task, I have serious doubts a tired 75 year old McCain will be. Not sure how old most of you are but anyone who has watched their grandparents or parents age from their early 70's to their late middle to late 70's, the drop in mental alertness is startling. It is one thing to say they are doing well for someone 75, it is another to say they have the mental and physical capacity for the job of President of the United States.

2008-08-29 11:48:34
13.   Will Carroll
Diane -- I actually did a candidate health report on McCain.

2008-08-29 12:45:35
14.   misterjohnny
So she was Captain of her Basketball team in H.S. Maybe McCain picked her because at the next debate they're doing 2 on 2 winners outs?
2008-08-29 15:43:27
15.   jgpyke
2 Actually, of the four top people running (Pres and VP), she is the only one with executive experience. Or experience running ANYTHING.

Obama's resume is laughable. "Community organizer"? That's the kind of stuff you put on a job application when you're fresh out of college and need a job, to make it look like that summer you spent working half-time at the recycling center on campus meant something.

2008-08-29 16:39:06
16.   digmyearth
I spent 15 minutes at my desk today laughing so hard I was crying. I had employees coming and asking if I was alright. "McCAIN - MILF '08" - CLASSIC!
2008-08-30 17:35:30
17.   chris in illinois
15 That gig as mayor of that town of 6,000 is pretty impressive. Governor of Alaska? There's what 500 COUNTIES in the U.S. that have greater populations than Alaska does, want to nominate the heads of those county boards for VP??


2008-08-30 21:34:24
18.   jgpyke
17 She has more experience than Obama. It's a fact.

Heck, Chris, you have more experience than Obama from working in the bookstore. The guy has never actually had a job.

2008-08-30 21:37:14
19.   jgpyke
Seriously, though, have you ever run anything? School principal? Your own business? Anything?

Neither has Obama.

Don't diss being a mayor or governor based on the size of the constituency. They are executive jobs. She took on corruption in her own party, unlike Obama's embrace of the dirty Chicago machine. She is supremely more qualified than Obama to run anything, and she's only in the VP slot.

2008-08-30 21:51:10
20.   Tripon
19 Well, you're the master of the straw man argument. Anyway, its certainly an odd choice for McCain, and he can only ride the "I PICKED A WOMAN, ALL THE HILLIARY CLINTON VOTERS COME TO ME." thing so far. Palin got boobed for mentioning Hillary at a campaign rally earlier this day which underscores the fact that republicans still hate Hillary guts, and the Republican base is going to get annoyed at the constant praise of a figure so hated by the right.

Trying to build a coalition of disenchanted Hillary voters and the Republican base is going to be harder than McCain though.

2008-08-31 03:51:53
21.   chris in illinois
19 Actually I'm the store manager where I work, but it hardly qualifies me to be president. As far as Mrs. Palin is concerned Mayor of Podunksville AK is not hardly any sort of executive position. There are dozens and dozens of small towns around here who have 500-5000 people in them and not one of the mayors is even close to being a full-time job.

If being the mayor of Auburn Illinois is an executive position than my son is a 'Waste Technician' since he threw one of his sister's diapers away.

As U.S. Senator he has had to manage his staff, both in Illinois and DC and manage his campaign while withstanding intense media scrutiny...sounds like on the job training to be President if you ask me.

2008-08-31 11:23:04
22.   jgpyke
21 As U.S. Senator...sounds like on the job training to be President if you ask me.

Oh, so that's why we elect senators as president once every five decades! Silly me.

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