Will, I think an interesting angle going forward is how each team takes on these positive tests from a PR perspective. Granted, outside of Raffy most of the positives have fallen between the cracks PR-wise. They surely have outside of true baseball circles - only the Raffy thing generated any buzz outside of baseball.

But now we're dealing with players who, as FAs, are going into the market with the Scarlet 'R around their neck. Maybe Lawton isn't the best test case since he was coming off a very pedestrian season, but do you think the positive will hurt him as a FA? Not from a suspension standpoint since it's only 1/16th of the season. But from a PR standpoint?

Carlos Almanzar
Rafael Betancourt
Ryan Franklin
Felix Heredia
Matt Lawton
Augustin Montero
Mike Morse
Rafael Palmeiro
Jogre Piedra
Juan Rincon
Alex Sanchez
Jamal Strong

And that bridge in Brooklyn sells for how much?! You will never catch or will never know the full extent of what stars, hall of famers, and good players used, unless they have the balls to admit it, most likely if they get a conscience in retirement. Don't count on it.

I have no idea what Bonds did, but sometimes people just get bigger as the get older (for those of you over 35, check out your senior picture and then look in a mirror...).

So you really have no idea what Bonds did to get bigger? I know, I know we've never been able to prove anything ergo he didn't do anything, right? Yikes.

And I'm over 35 (most of the time) and my head looks exactly the same, it's just that my forehead looks larger as my hairline has receded.

How many homers did Murray hit? And how many of them were in the 'Roid era? And how many were right after the McGwire/Sosa era?

Hmmm.

On another subject did you get to Gilead? Damn fine piece of literature.

I also recall from back when I lived in SD that former Chargers QB Stan Humphries had the largest helmet size in football. Must be on the juice.

I believe Will himself said in his book, that if we could tell who was taking steroids just by looking at them, then why bother with all the high-tech testing?

just because bruce bochy has a big head and doesn't do 'roids does not mean that barry bonds who also has a huge head/body/etc also does not do roids. (blue fish eat worms: all fish eat worms.) the bruce bochy argument is a straw man.

saying that we can tell from one person does not mean that we can tell for all people. i have a big head - - 7 7/8; that doesn't mean i do roids. (hint: you have to factor in all the other data points.)

also, innocence until proven guilty works only in the judicial system, not in the court of public opinion or the court of public personaes.

what we really keep arguing about is DEFINITIVE PROOF, which we're never going to have. Some people, like Will (not putting words into his mouth but I think I'm fair in this conclusion) say that without definitive proof we cannot convict. I say phooey. If that were the case we would convict roughly 5% of the people in this country.

both sides have good arguments, let's just stop pretending that the "Barry is a 'Roider" crowd is a bunch of A-hole/Jabba the Fat/tie-stained sportswriters (not meant to anyone in specific.)

Hmm . . . Will, writing on this very blog, implied that condemnation of Bonds stemmed from "statistical racism and chemical McCarthyism." I don't know whom to believe.

"...There's also no evidence that steroids have an effect on baseball skills..."

Thank You.

I don't condone steroid use, but I do doubt any wild claims that they caused the huge offensive explosion in the 90's---I could give you 10 better reasons why offense spiked than steroids.

So can Jay Jaffe if you read that chapter in The Juice

Sorry, had to do it.